{"id":108077,"date":"2019-04-23T11:00:56","date_gmt":"2019-04-23T10:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/?p=108077"},"modified":"2023-03-06T09:26:45","modified_gmt":"2023-03-06T09:26:45","slug":"friendship-and-love","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/friendship-and-love.htm","title":{"rendered":"Friendship and Love &#8211; When Does One Become the Other?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_108099\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/8316230145_f74e9f1299.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-108099\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-108099\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/8316230145_f74e9f1299-400x266.jpg\" alt=\"friendship or love\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/8316230145_f74e9f1299-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/8316230145_f74e9f1299-180x120.jpg 180w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/8316230145_f74e9f1299.jpg 499w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-108099\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/viktor_u\/8316230145\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Victor U<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\" style=\"color: #333399;\">by Andrea M. Darcy<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Have a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/how-to-find-friends.htm\">friend<\/a> you sometimes wonder if you might love? Or with a partner, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/relationship-doubts.htm\">worried you should have just stayed friends<\/a>? <em>Where is the line between friendship and love, and when should you cross it?<\/em>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The modern mistake when it comes to love <\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Part of the confusion around friendship and love is that Western media has created a many-headed monster out of the latter.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>We are taught that \u2018love\u2019 should be all consuming and exciting, that it should<\/strong> arrive perfectly formed, and completely change us. That if you are &#8216;in love&#8217; you should then do everything together, and it should always feel \u2018good\u2019. <\/span><span class=\"s1\">We are also taught that we should suffer for love, that it should hurt sometimes, but is \u2018worth it\u2019. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em><span class=\"s1\">So if we don\u2019t feel the earth shudder beneath us, or feel tortured, we think it can\u2019t be love, and decide we are just friends.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">[In a relationship that is starting to control you, or losing sight of yourself in it? Book an <span style=\"color: #993366;\">affordable online therapist <\/span>and get the help you need.]<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What is healthy love? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><strong><span class=\"s1\">Looking at the above modern ideas of \u2018love\u2019 from a psychological perspective gives a very different take. <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8216;all consuming&#8217; means an<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/addictive-relationships.htm\"> addictive relationship<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li>&#8216;exciting&#8217; is often <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/black-and-white-thinking-stop-drama-addict.htm\">drama addiction<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">love isn\u2019t perfectly formed but requires committed ongoing work<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">it only changes us to the extent we work on the relationship <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">being glued at the hip is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/codependency-symptoms-modern-times.htm\">codependency\u00a0<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/healthy-relationships-help-guide.htm\">healthy relationship<\/a> doesn\u2019t always feel good, but sees us <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/relationship-conflict-still-fighting.htm\">navigate conflict\u00a0<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">suffering in the name of love is often a sign of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/what-is-love-addiction.htm\">love addiction<\/a> or an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/emotionally-abusive-relationships.htm\">abusive relationship<\/a>.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"attachment_108097\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/3320409558_0b46b90f4c.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-108097\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-108097\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/3320409558_0b46b90f4c-400x277.jpg\" alt=\"love and friendship\" width=\"400\" height=\"277\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/3320409558_0b46b90f4c-400x277.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/3320409558_0b46b90f4c.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-108097\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/35279302@N08\/3320409558\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Iselin<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p><span class=\"s1\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/authentic-relationships.htm\">Authentic love<\/a> is, yes, choosing to move through life together. But also <\/strong>accepting each other fully, facing challenges together, and supporting each other to be your best selves. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Doesn\u2019t sound so sexy, does it? But it means we feel<\/strong> calm, supported, and able to grow as a person. Surely that is better than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/effects-of-anxiety.htm\">feeling anxious<\/a>, confused, and in emotional pain. <\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If that\u2019s love, what is friendship? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Friendship does have many of the same trademarks as a healthy romance.<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/how-to-find-friends.htm\">A good friendship<\/a> means you both can be yourselves without<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/judging-people-why-we-do-it.htm\"> fear of judgement<\/a>, and that you support each other. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Of course we also have created a negative sort of friendship these days,<\/strong> to match our unhealthy ideas of love. Read our article on &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/toxic-friends-what-to-do.htm\">Toxic Friendships<\/a>\u2019 if you aren&#8217;t sure of the difference.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Friendship and love &#8211; what is the difference?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>It&#8217;s a subject that has been debated since&#8230; well, since humans could debate.<\/strong> And you&#8217;d likely write several encyclopaedias trying to cover all the various theories.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_108101\" style=\"width: 291px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/14596365830_65f241f064.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-108101\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-108101\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/14596365830_65f241f064-281x400.jpg\" alt=\"love and friendship\" width=\"281\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/14596365830_65f241f064-281x400.jpg 281w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/14596365830_65f241f064.jpg 351w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 281px) 100vw, 281px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-108101\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/internetarchivebookimages\/14596365830\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Internet Archive Book Images<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>The ancient Greeks felt there were many kinds of love, and that love could evolve.<\/strong> To generalise <a href=\"https:\/\/iep.utm.edu\/love\/\">the main three of what are quite complicated concepts<\/a> (Greek philosophers weren&#8217;t known for brevity), &#8216;Eros&#8217; was erotic love, based on attraction, and &#8216;Philia&#8217; a sort of love between equals, friendship (which they valued more).\u00a0 &#8216;Agape&#8217; was unconditional love of a higher nature.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Modern day science sees love as a chemical process that starts with lust. <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/sitn.hms.harvard.edu\/flash\/2017\/love-actually-science-behind-lust-attraction-companionship\/\">Harvard University claims the science of love<\/a> is composed of three stages, of &#8216;lust, attraction, and attachment&#8217;, each releasing its own set of chemicals into our brains.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So if you go with philosophy, friendship is simply a different kind of <\/strong>love. If you go with science, a love relationship starts with being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/high-sex-drive.htm\">sexually attracted<\/a>. Of course that lust has to evolve into<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/attachment-styles.htm\"> attachment<\/a>, or else it&#8217;s just lust. If it is only attachment, it&#8217;s friendship.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But take note &#8211; the same Harvard article also confesses that, &#8220;the scientific basis of love is often sensationalised, and as with most <\/strong>science, we don\u2019t know enough to draw firm conclusions about every piece of the puzzle.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800080;\">So the truth is that love and friendship are NOT an exact science. Your own definitions might be influenced by your personality, <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><a style=\"color: #666699;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/values-and-beliefs.htm\">values, beliefs<\/a><\/span>, and <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><a style=\"color: #666699;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/low-sex-drive-2.htm\">sex drive<\/a><\/span>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #800080;\">To understand if a certain relationship is a friendship or more means <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/good-questions-to-ask.htm\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">asking good questions<\/span><\/a>, then coming up with the right solution for both you and the other person.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Should we break up and just be friends? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>It\u2019s a big question that depends on many factors. But we can keep in mind the three ingredients science proposed<\/strong> above &#8211; lust, attraction, and attachment. <\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Were you once very attracted to each other, and also able to be yourselves?<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Do you share <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/personal-values-know-yours.htm\">personal values<\/a> between you?<\/li>\n<li>Despite conflict, do you at heart still <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/rebuilding-trust-in-a-relationship.htm\">trust each other<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>Despite everything, do you respect your partner?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em><span class=\"s1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/i-hate-change-management.htm\">Life can throw curve balls<\/a> that break down<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/communication-problems.htm\"> communication<\/a> and means love gets buried under <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/bad-at-dealing-with-conflict.htm\">conflict<\/a>. But if the foundation is strong, it&#8217;s worth trying <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/common-issues-in-couples-therapy.htm\">couples counselling<\/a> before throwing in the towel &#8211; at the very least you would be helped through a healthy breakup.\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>On the other hand &#8211; <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>do you share <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/personal-values-know-yours.htm\">values<\/a>, but there was never any real lust between you?<\/li>\n<li>did you <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/who-am-i-identity-crisis.htm\">not know yourself<\/a> when you got involved? But now you do, you feel differently?<\/li>\n<li>have you grown in entirely different directions since you met?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>You might be cut out to be friends.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>But be wary of the following:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>did you <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/always-moving-too-fast-in-a-relationship.htm\">rush into the relationship<\/a> without knowing each other?<\/li>\n<li>did you base this relationship on lust, but<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/signs-of-an-unhealthy-relationship.htm\"> never felt safe<\/a> in it?<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"s1\">when you did get to know each other did you realise you don&#8217;t have personal values in common?\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li>on a certain level do you <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/trusting-others-hard.htm\">just not trust the other person<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>is she or he in any way <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/traumatic-bonding-break-trauma-bonds.htm\">abusive<\/a>?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><i>Sometimes saying &#8216;we should be friends&#8217; is not honest, because we know deep down we need to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/leave-unhappy-relationship.htm\">walk away entirely from an unhealthy situation<\/a>.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Should we go from friends to partners? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>First of all, ask this when you are BOTH available. If you are obsessed with a friend and secretly \u2018in love\u2019 but they are in a relationship,<\/strong> make sure it\u2019s not just your own way to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/fear-of-intimacy.htm\">avoid real intimacy<\/a> with someone who<em> is<\/em> free.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>Second, it&#8217;s only a question when you both feel the same way. If you are trying to<\/strong> push a friend into a relationship when they just want to be friends, it&#8217;s time to step back and ask if you are even a friend at all. Remember, friendship is about respect and support, not <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/manipulative-behaviour-are-you-guilty.htm\">manipulation<\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">In a relationship that has gone wrong and not sure what to do? Or can&#8217;t stop obsessing on a friend? <\/span><\/strong><strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Harley Therapy connects you with <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><a style=\"color: #666699;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/couples-counselling-london.htm\">top couples counsellors<\/a><\/span> and therapists for individuals in central London. If you aren&#8217;t in London, <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><a style=\"color: #666699;\" href=\"https:\/\/harleytherapy.com\/?utm_source=Harley%20Therapy%20Blog&amp;utm_content=Post%20End\">find a therapist UK-wide<\/a> <\/span>on our sister site, along with <span style=\"color: #666699;\"><a style=\"color: #666699;\" href=\"https:\/\/harleytherapy.com\/therapists?location_type=skype&amp;utm_source=Harley%20Therapy%20Blog&amp;utm_content=Post%20End\">online therapists<\/a><\/span> you can call from any country.\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Have a question we haven&#8217;t answered about love and friendship? Use the comment box below. Note all comments are monitored to protect our other readers and we do not allow advertising.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-117271 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/headshot-yellow-397x400.png\" alt=\"Andrea M. Darcy\" width=\"105\" height=\"106\" \/>\u00a0Andrea M. Darcy<\/strong> is the editor and lead writer of Harley Therapy Blog. She has trained in person-centred counselling and group coaching, and she is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amdarcy.com\/about\">a writer known for trauma, relationships, and ADHD articles<\/a>. Find her on Instagram <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/am_darcy\/\">@am_darcy<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Andrea M. Darcy Have a friend you sometimes wonder if you might love? Or with a partner, and worried you should have just stayed friends? 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