{"id":115186,"date":"2019-10-10T11:00:10","date_gmt":"2019-10-10T10:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/?p=115186"},"modified":"2022-05-16T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-05-16T11:00:00","slug":"losing-someone-to-suicide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/losing-someone-to-suicide.htm","title":{"rendered":"Losing Someone to Suicide &#8211; What Now?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_115187\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/16298650625_ff57cb9f9c-4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-115187\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-115187\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/16298650625_ff57cb9f9c-4-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"losing someone to suicide\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/16298650625_ff57cb9f9c-4-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/16298650625_ff57cb9f9c-4.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-115187\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/m-a-r-t-i-n\/16298650625\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Martin Cooper<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/truth-about-grief-and-bereavement.htm\">Bereavement<\/a> is difficult whatever the circumstances. But losing someone to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/myths-about-suicide.htm\">suicide<\/a> can make <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/myths-about-grief-and-loss.htm\">grief<\/a> even more complicated.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">The truth about losing someone to suicide<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Grief is often talked about in metaphors.<\/strong> <strong>It is said to be like<\/strong> waves &#8212; you never know if it will be a day with big waves, or small ones. Others talk about it as a rollercoaster.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And then there are the \u2018five stages of grief\u2019 made famous by\u00a0<\/strong> psychiatrist Elisabeth K\u00fcbler Ross. Not everyone goes through all stages after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/fear-of-losing-loved-ones.htm\">losing someone<\/a>, and the order can be different for one person than another. Or you can cycle back through the stages, which are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/denial-in-psychology.htm\">denial<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/i-feel-so-alone.htm\">isolation<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/anger-issues-signs.htm\">anger<\/a><\/li>\n<li>bargaining<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/types-of-depression.htm\">depression<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/what-is-acceptance-and-commitment-therapy.htm\">acceptance<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Regular grief vs grief when losing someone to suicide<\/h2>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #993366;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/can-help-someone-suicidal.htm\">Suicide<\/a> also complicates the grieving process. A <a style=\"color: #993366;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nhs.uk\/Livewell\/Suicide\/Documents\/Help%20is%20at%20Hand.pdf\">guide to navigating loss via suicide put out by the NHS<\/a> calls it, &#8216;grief with the volume turned up&#8217;. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>The &#8216;waves&#8217; can be a tsunami.<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/anger-management-help-guide.htm\">Anger<\/a> can be even bigger, and this way of losing someone adds what can feel other &#8216;stages&#8217;, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/why-do-i-feel-guilty-all-the-time.htm\">guilt<\/a>, confusion, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/fear-of-abandonment.htm\">feelings of abandonment<\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">It\u2019s okay to be angry<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>We can be angry at<\/strong> the person we lost for what can seem to us a selfish<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/how-to-take-a-decision.htm\"> decision<\/a>. And then we can be angry at everyone who could have tried to stop them, or angry at<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/what-makes-a-good-therapist.htm\"> their therapist<\/a>, or angry at fate for each tiny moment where things could have gone differently and ended with a different result.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And then finally we can end up angry at ourselves.<\/strong> Which feeds into the next point.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">The guilt stage<\/span><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_115188\" style=\"width: 276px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/4294304303_4ee3f64bb5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-115188\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-115188\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/4294304303_4ee3f64bb5-266x400.jpg\" alt=\"losing someone to suicide\" width=\"266\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/4294304303_4ee3f64bb5-266x400.jpg 266w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/4294304303_4ee3f64bb5.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 266px) 100vw, 266px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-115188\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/vox_efx\/4294304303\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Vox Efx<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>When we lose someone to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/my-job-is-killing-me-losing-the-will-to-live.htm\">suicide<\/a>, particularly if it is a partner, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/talking-to-children-about-death-and-dying.htm\">child<\/a>, other family member, or very <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/i-feel-so-alone.htm\">close friend<\/a>? When the anger dies down there can be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/why-do-i-feel-guilty-all-the-time.htm\">guilt<\/a>. What if we could have done more to help? Why didn\u2019t we do this, or that?<\/p>\n<p><em>**If you at any point feel so upset you actually consider suicide yourself, please reach out for help immediately. Call<a href=\"https:\/\/www.samaritans.org\/?nation=scotland\"> the Good Samaritans<\/a> on 116 123, or another helpline of your choice (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/mental-health-helpline.htm\">see our list here<\/a>). If you feel you are in real danger, call emergency services or go to the nearest A&amp;E.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Then comes the confusion\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>Death is confusing to start with. But if we did not see a suicide coming, we can replay things again and again in our mind in an attempt to understand. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>We logically know that people are complicated. We aren\u2019t<\/strong> endlessly trying to understand the people still around us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But we can now want desperately to understand the person who took <\/strong>themselves willingly away from us, as if they are a puzzle there is suddenly one answer to and it&#8217;s our responsibility to solve it. It can even become <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/pure-o-pure-ocd.htm\">obsessional<\/a> for a bit, as we try to find our way forward through bereavement.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Rejection and abandonment<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Another grief experience more unique to those going through losing a loved one to suicide is<\/strong> experiencing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/abandonment-issues.htm\">a sense of being abandoned<\/a>. It can also trigger and build on any past experiences of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/the-private-hell-of-rejection-why-does-it-keep-happening-to-you.htm\">being rejected<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You might find yourself asking questions such as,<\/strong> &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/friendship-and-love.htm\">If they really loved me<\/a>, how could they?&#8221;. Why would the leave me like this?&#8221; &#8220;How could they abandon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/mindful-parenting.htm\">our children<\/a>?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<h2><strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Grief groups can backfire<\/span><\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Grief groups are very helpful for many people.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">But if you have lost someone to suicide it\u2019s possible that you might feel, particularly if your loss is very fresh, that others who have lost someone to a natural death, or accident, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/chronic-illness-and-children.htm\">illness<\/a>? Simply don&#8217;t understand how you feel.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>You might even <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/shame-definition.htm\">feel ashamed<\/a> somehow that your loved one took their life. Even if<\/strong> you know it&#8217;s not logical or true, suicide can feel a &#8216;dirty secret&#8217;.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Stigma can sadly still happen\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<div id=\"attachment_115189\" style=\"width: 308px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/33339234578_980a09095c.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-115189\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-115189\" src=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/33339234578_980a09095c-298x400.jpg\" alt=\"losing someone to suicide\" width=\"298\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/33339234578_980a09095c-298x400.jpg 298w, https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/wp-content\/uploads\/33339234578_980a09095c.jpg 372w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 298px) 100vw, 298px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-115189\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">By: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/23119666@N03\/33339234578\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\" \">Mark Bonica<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Yes, here in the Western world, advances have been made around dismantling <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/handling-depression-stigma.htm\">mental health stigma.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">But not everyone is yet comfortable talking about mental health, particularly suicide. This can be affected by things like culture and religion. And note that in some countries committing suicide is even still classified as a criminal act.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>People you thought were reliable might let you down on this front.<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/is-dealing-with-difficult-colleagues-affecting-your-mental-wellbeing.htm\">Colleagues<\/a> you liked might avoid you despite best intentions, not knowing what to say. And you yourself might even have negative views on it.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800080;\">What now?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>So how are you supposed to navigate not just the wild ride of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/truth-about-grief-and-bereavement.htm\">grief and bereavement<\/a>, but the fact that someone you loved willingly took their own life?<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">1. Connect with people who DO understand losing someone to suicide.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Why does this matter? Because much like you might have experienced reading this article, when we<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/connecting-with-people.htm\">connect with others<\/a> who understand, we feel a little less<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/feeling-alone.htm\"> alone<\/a> with the grief. We are a little less lost in it.<\/p>\n<p>Find forums, online support groups for those who have lost people to suicide, and support groups that have this focus.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There are also charities set up to help those who experiencing loss from suicide, such as<\/strong> &#8220;Facing the Future&#8221;, an initiative by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.samaritans.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Samaritans<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cruse.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cruse Bereavement Care<\/a> .<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">2. Accept that others who were also close to the person might not grieve the same way as you.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>It can be hard if the very person you\u2019d hope would understand, <\/strong>as they were also involved with the person you lost, have instead reacted to their grief by cutting everyone out, or pretending everything is fine.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Even someone you were very close to, like a<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/adult-sibling-rivalry-stop.htm\">sibling<\/a>, can be acting like a stranger.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Grief is a very personal experience. And everyone gets through it in their own way, in their own time.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">3. Try to forgive people for senseless questions and trite advice.\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>You might want to scream the next time a person asks, &#8220;How are you doing?&#8221; And it <\/strong>might seem that everyone has &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/giving-advice-in-relationships.htm\">advice<\/a>&#8216; over what you should and shouldn&#8217;t do when it comes to grieving, even if they have never gone through it themselves.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Try to remember that they have good intentions and often they are<\/strong> doing their best. But are nervous they will say the wrong thing &#8212; and then do. If it&#8217;s too much, just ask for space. Most people understand this request.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">4. Find an outlet for your emotions.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Grief outlets can be the last thing you expected. You might suddenly like<\/strong> running, or find yourself furiously deep cleaning the house, or digging holes in the vegetable garden. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/how-to-use-a-self-help-journal.htm\">Writing things then ripping up the paper<\/a> works for some people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As long as it doesn&#8217;t do more harm than help<\/strong> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/drinking-too-much-alcohol.htm\">alcohol<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/truth-about-overeating-case-study.htm\">overeating<\/a>, for example, can just lead to more guilt and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/causes-of-exhaustion.htm\">exhaustion<\/a>), let yourself have the space to emote.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">5. Don\u2019t feel bad if some days you feel good.\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Sometimes, even after a day where you felt the worse of all, you might suddenly feel okay. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/being-happy-why-is-it-so-hard.htm\">Happy<\/a>, even. It\u2019s normal and okay. You are still here, living your life.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">6. Accept that you can\u2019t control grief.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Grief doesn\u2019t work to a timeline. It doesn\u2019t even make sense half the time. And trying to \u2018just get over it\u2019, or \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/crying-for-no-reason.htm\">not cry anymore<\/a>\u2019, or \u2018stop being angry\u2019? Can just mean that the highs and lows get worse.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #993366;\">7. Learn more about suicide if it helps.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Some people feel better doing research on the topic. Research studies, science, or reading personal experiences of<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/managing-suicidal-thoughts.htm\"> suicidal thinking<\/a> helps them understand the person they&#8217;ve lost, and feel less abandoned or guilty.<\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #333333;\">Is it time to seek professional help?\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/bereavement-counselling-grieve.htm\">Grief counselling<\/a> is always recommended, but particularly when it comes to loss via suicide. If you don\u2019t have anyone you feel comfortable talking to, or everyone you usually talk too is too invested in things? A<a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/bereavement-counselling-london.htm\"> professional grief counsellor<\/a> not only will completely understand, they will not have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/how-to-stop-judging-others.htm\">judgements<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/counselling\/setting-expectations.htm\">expectations<\/a>. It\u2019s a weekly window you can say anything in safety.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Ready to talk to someone about what you&#8217;re going through? We connect you with <span style=\"color: #333399;\"><a style=\"color: #333399;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harleytherapy.co.uk\/bereavement-counselling-london.htm\">highly experienced London bereavement counsellors<\/a>. <\/span>Or use <a href=\"https:\/\/harleytherapy.com\/?utm_source=Harley%20Therapy%20Blog&amp;utm_content=Post%20End\"><span style=\"color: #333399;\">our booking platform<\/span><\/a> to find UK-wide and via the <a href=\"https:\/\/harleytherapy.com\/therapists?location_type=skype&amp;utm_source=Harley%20Therapy%20Blog&amp;utm_content=Post%20End\"><span style=\"color: #333399;\">internet grief counselling<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><strong>Still have questions about losing someone to suicide? Or want to share your experience with other readers? Post in the comments box below.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bereavement is difficult whatever the circumstances. 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